New Map UI Changes

I 100% know it’s a work in process being so new. It has some wonderful things in it, like the area drawing is near perfect! But for me at least near everything else is a downgrade for ease of use when it comes to working with the map while playing a game. Maybe it’s better if all I did was world build who knows.

Some of which I know you two already mentioned working on tweaks based on feedback. So I’m willing to give time to see where things lands in the final form. But from about a hour or two messing with the new setup. I’ve ran into the following issues on my end, keep in mind this could just be a me issue.

1) Can’t easy move NPC’s from one POI to another. Use to I could just left click one POI, click the NPC, Click Move and left click where I wanted them. It was Easy, quick, and simple to understand.

Now? Now I click box select, click on the NPC, the whole POI comes up to the right, I scroll down to the characters in the POI, and….I don’t know what to do from here? I click the NPC and I get there character sheet info. But I can’t move their POI from here. Will mentioned in the discord to click the character in the side panel and drag into them into another POI.

However, I try to drag and the box changes over to select mode more often then not and I end up moving the POI or areas instead while the character never moves for me. For me at least as it is. The map as a way to move character is just a broken experience and I’m limited to going to the character list and moving them on their character sheets. And pray I don’t need to move a dozen or more at once.

2) The Select, Box, Pan setup needs more work from my point of view. It was already mentioned by Will I think that it will be changed most likely so this point may be mute long-term naturally. But currently, Select mode as the default isn’t ideal. For me, I tend to go to map and need to center it where I am in the world. I’m not trying to select/move areas/POI more then I am trying to recenter the map where I am.

Pan also would benefit from being able to select POIs at least imo, granted this I believe was mentioned by will as well as being looked into already.

Box works great for Area’s and love how it highlights which one your on currently. My main issue with this one is it random seems to switch over to Select Mode out of the blue and then I’m moving POI’s or areas again.

Select….Honestly for me I wouldn’t never use this mode if I could avoid it. But I know that is a me thing. Even before this update, I moved Poi’s by the click the poi, move, and clicked where I wanted it. Areas I always went in coord wise and set it because I wanted very specific numbers so one area bordered another perfectly.

3) Then my biggest frustration. The CONSTANT snapping and zooming into places as I select things. I open the map, and I’m zoomed all the way in. So I zoom out so I can see the world/town my character is in. Then I select something and then I’m zoomed ALLLL the way in again. So I zoom out so I can see what I’m trying to achieve again.

Try to move a NPC around, fail, then I’m snapped over to where the map starts me at when I first switched to the map all the way zoomed in. So I then have to zoom out and move across the map/world again to where I was. Click on a POI/Character then I get zoomed all the way in again automatically.

That is all I’m going to go on for now, mostly because this is as far as I’ve gotten with it before I’m just done for the evening messing with it as in my eyes it needs work and isn’t clear how or what the aim is for ease of movement to achieve one task or another.

Again…this can fully just be my inability to understand the design of the UI goals here. But to me, I rarely have found a UI change to be as jarring as unpleasant to use as the one here right now as it is out of the gate. It’s honestly the first update Will and David has every done I’m been unhappy with. But I also know you two will work out the worst parts in the days to come. I just can’t as of right now use the system as is on my end tonight at least.

With that being said, I have to ask, what was so bad with the old POI bit where all we had to do was left click it, select whoever we wanted, and click move then click. To me that was such a simple and easy system to pick up from a UI point of view.

This going to the side bar and dragging npcs out/over to new POI’s just doesn’t make sense to me personally, granted I’m no down bias against it because I haven’t been able to even move one NPC using the map in 2 hours or so of trying to learn how.